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04/26/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 105 SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 105(EDC) Out of Committee
+= HB 106 TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 106 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 111 EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 26, 2023                                                                                         
                           8:00 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                             DRAFT                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Jamie Allard, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Justin Ruffridge, Co-Chair                                                                                       
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
Representative CJ McCormick                                                                                                     
Representative Tom McKay                                                                                                        
Representative Rebecca Himschoot                                                                                                
Representative Andi Story                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                              
Representative Jennie Armstrong                                                                                                 
Representative Zack Fields                                                                                                      
Representative Ashley Carrick                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 111                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to public school students who are deaf or have                                                                 
a hearing impairment."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 106                                                                                                              
"An Act authorizing lump sum payments for certain teachers as                                                                   
retention and recruitment incentives; and providing for an                                                                      
effective date."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HB 106 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 105                                                                                                              
"An  Act relating  to  parental rights  in  a child's  education;                                                               
relating to access to school  records; relating to sex education,                                                               
human  reproduction  education,  and human  sexuality  education;                                                               
relating to school disciplinary and safety programs; and                                                                        
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 105(EDC) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 111                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): REPRESENTATIVE(s) ALLARD                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
03/13/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/13/23       (H)       HSS, EDC                                                                                               
03/22/23       (H)       HSS REFERRAL REMOVED                                                                                   
03/22/23       (H)       BILL REPRINTED                                                                                         
04/24/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/24/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/24/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/26/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 106                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/08/23       (H)       EDC, FIN                                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/12/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/12/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/12/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/24/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/24/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/24/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/26/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 105                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS                                                                                
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
03/08/23       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
03/08/23       (H)       EDC, JUD                                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/13/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/13/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
03/29/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/29/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/29/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
03/30/23       (H)       EDC AT 5:15 PM DAVIS 106                                                                               
03/30/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/30/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/13/23       (H)       EDC AT 5:15 PM BARNES 124                                                                              
04/13/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/13/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/24/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
04/24/23       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
04/24/23       (H)       MINUTE(EDC)                                                                                            
04/26/23       (H)       EDC AT 8:00 AM DAVIS 106                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CLARA BALDWIN, representing self                                                                                                
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave invited testimony in support of HB
111.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA MUELLER-GUY, representing self                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 111.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI LIEB-WILLIAMS, Chair                                                                                                      
Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education                                                                        
Department of Health                                                                                                            
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 111.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
AMY BOBICH, representing self                                                                                                   
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified in support of HB 111.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI TESHNER, Acting Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Education and Early Development                                                                                   
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions during the hearing on HB
106.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:00:18 AM                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
CO-CHAIR  JAMIE  ALLARD  called   the  House  Education  Standing                                                             
Committee  meeting  to  order  at   8:00  a.m.    Representatives                                                               
Ruffridge,  Prax, McCormick,  McKay, Himschoot,  and Allard  were                                                               
present at  the call to  order.  Representative Story  arrived as                                                               
the meeting  was in progress.   Also present  were Representative                                                               
Jenny Armstrong,  Representative Zach Fields,  and Representative                                                               
Ashley Carrick.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:00 a.m. to 8:05 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          HB 111-EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:05:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that the  first order of business would                                                               
be  HOUSE  BILL  NO.  111,  "An Act  relating  to  public  school                                                               
students who  are deaf  or have a  hearing impairment."   [Before                                                               
the  committee, adopted  as the  work draft  on 4/24/23,  was the                                                               
proposed  committee  substitute  (CS)  for HB  111,  Version  33-                                                               
LS0504\S, Marx, 4/22/23, Version S.]                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:05:42                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CLARA  BALDWIN,  representing  self, gave  invited  testimony  in                                                               
support of HB 111.  [Ms.  Baldwin signed her testimony, which was                                                               
spoken by  an ASL interpreter.]   She provided her  background in                                                               
overseeing  the Alaska  State School  for  the Deaf  and Hard  of                                                               
Hearing (AKSDHH)  and related that she  is deaf.  The  reason she                                                               
is here today, she  said, is that she was born  in a deaf family,                                                               
which is  rare.  She shared  that she is a  fifth-generation deaf                                                               
person,  which  can  be  seen   as  an  advantage,  although  she                                                               
indicated there  is nothing wrong  with a  baby born to  a family                                                               
who does  not know sign  language.   She relayed that  every deaf                                                               
child is  unique.  She acknowledged  that from birth, she  had an                                                               
advantage in  that her  parents were  signing to  her; therefore,                                                               
she learned social cues long  before school began.  Deaf children                                                               
who  do  not  have  that  advantage must  catch  up  starting  in                                                               
kindergarten, but  schools are not  able to provide a  full grade                                                               
curriculum.  The proposed bill,  she advised, would make deaf and                                                               
hard of  hearing children's presence  known and show  that Alaska                                                               
"has their  back."  She  reiterated that she had  been privileged                                                               
and  now wants  the  same  for every  deaf  and  hard of  hearing                                                               
student and  future generations in  Alaska to have  an accessible                                                               
experience, which would start with HB 111.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:10:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD invited questions from the committee.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:10:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT directed  a question  to Ms.  Baldwin's                                                               
interpreter.  [The interpreter, who  was not fully identified for                                                               
the   record,  spoke   briefly   about   the  qualifications   of                                                               
interpreters.]                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:12:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE asked  Ms. Baldwin  to speak  on AKSDHH                                                               
and her experiences there.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:12:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALDWIN responded  that she  is  very proud  of the  school,                                                               
which currently  is a self-contained  program in a  public school                                                               
building.   She said  it allows students  to learn  social skills                                                               
with their  hearing peers during  recess and during  some special                                                               
classes.    Counseling  services   are  offered  through  a  deaf                                                               
counselor,  as  well as  additional  language  services to  train                                                               
students  appropriately.    She  added  that ages  3  to  22  are                                                               
currently served,  which includes the adult  community transition                                                               
program.    There  are  leadership  opportunities  for  students,                                                               
clubs,  theater,  fundraising  training, and  every  student  can                                                               
engage  in after  school sports  with their  hearing peers.   She                                                               
noted that interpreters are provided throughout.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:15:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD asked  Ms.  Baldwin whether  she  felt the  bill                                                               
would open up more doors.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN replied, "Yes, yes, definitely."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:15:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY questioned  how the state is  doing with the                                                               
availability of interpreters for all students.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN replied  that the state has  an interpreter shortage.                                                               
Additionally,  some  people  are  getting  ready  to  retire  and                                                               
transition.   The  state has  the minimum  requirements, but  she                                                               
said she  wants more.  She  stated that her interpreter  today is                                                               
also a  program coordinator who  hires and supervises all  of the                                                               
interpreters  and, through  partnering  with an  agency, now  has                                                               
five  interns from  the Lower  48.   In response  to a  follow-up                                                               
question,  she  said   there  is  a  shortage  in   the  area  of                                                               
interpreters  as a  result  of the  challenge  of scheduling  and                                                               
serving such a vast state.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:18:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT referenced children  in rural Alaska and                                                               
recognized that  there are more choices  that must be made.   She                                                               
asked whether  it is more important  for a student to  be amongst                                                               
their family, peers, and culture, or  more important to be in the                                                               
special school in  Anchorage.  She asked Ms.  Baldwin whether, if                                                               
the bill  addresses what the "least  restrictive environment" is,                                                               
a child would have to leave their community and go to Anchorage.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:20:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  replied that  there is a  program called  Rural Deaf                                                               
Support Services  (RDSS), which finds host  families that provide                                                               
licensed  foster homes,  and there  are  many different  families                                                               
that qualify.   She  clarified that  the bill  would not  force a                                                               
student to  have to attend  the school  in Anchorage.   She added                                                               
that virtual  services are available  if, for example,  a student                                                               
comes to  Anchorage from rural  Alaska and finds that  the school                                                               
is not for them.  In  addition, there is an annual statewide deaf                                                               
retreat in Eagle River, Alaska,  for secondary students and above                                                               
which provides  an opportunity to  meet peers in person  and then                                                               
go back to their respective villages.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT stated  that  her concern  is with  the                                                               
designation  of "least  restrictive  environment", which  carries                                                               
legal  weight.   She asked  Ms.  Baldwin whether  the bill  would                                                               
still work if something other than that term were used.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:22:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  replied that there  are two  different perspectives.                                                               
She stated  it can be narrowed  down, and that the  bill could be                                                               
amended.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:23:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX observed  there must  be alternatives  other                                                               
than  ASL for  "least restrictive."   He  questioned what  may be                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  replied that  students can  be mainstream,  and some                                                               
students thrive with  just hearing aids.  She said  she prefers a                                                               
sign language  interpreter, whereas some students  thrive sitting                                                               
near the teacher where they have access to auditory input.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:24:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  asked  about  the services  provided  to  other                                                               
municipalities compared  to the school  in Anchorage and  how the                                                               
bill would help in that aspect.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  explained that  other schools  are smaller  and more                                                               
isolated than  AKSDHH.  She said  the bill would make  the school                                                               
more  known and  provide the  ability  to reach  out further,  in                                                               
addition  to providing  virtual  services.   She  stated she  has                                                               
opportunities to travel to other  municipalities to support their                                                               
schools in hopes  of informing everyone statewide  that they have                                                               
the help of AKSDHH.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD asked  whether  the proposed  legislation is  an                                                               
incentive  to  encourage  other   interpreters  to  come  forward                                                               
because the state is offering more support.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALDWIN agreed.   She  added that  the deaf  community is  a                                                               
small community, but it can make a huge impact.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:26:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  asked what support the  school district may                                                               
provide for parents to learn sign language.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN  replied that a  sign language class is  offered, and                                                               
there  is frequent  communication  with  parents regarding  their                                                               
child's individual education plan (IEP).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:28:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX brought  up the  term "profoundly  deaf" and                                                               
asked whether ASL was the only alternative.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALDWIN replied  she  was  not sure.    She  said that  some                                                               
individuals that  are considered  profoundly deaf can  speak very                                                               
clearly with repetition and training behind them.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:29:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD offered a personal  example of a friend and asked                                                               
whether Ms. Baldwin  could speak on his situation.   In addition,                                                               
she explained  that she uses a  coil that is integrated  into her                                                               
phone and hearing  aids and asked Ms. Baldwin to  speak on what a                                                               
coil means.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BALDWIN replied that the  individual in question can speak as                                                               
well  as being  fluent  in  sign language.    She explained  that                                                               
sometimes,  if it  is, for  example,  a big  room with  a lot  of                                                               
stimuli, that individual  will depend on the  interpreter for the                                                               
competing noise.  In response  to a follow-up question, she spoke                                                               
about the use  of coils providing sound to those  hard of hearing                                                               
or deaf.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:32:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD opened public testimony on HB 111.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:32:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PAMELA MUELLER-GUY,  representing self,  testified in  support of                                                               
HB 111,  noting that she  has been [in  Juneau] since 1974.   She                                                               
said  she agrees  with what  the lady  said -  "excellent."   She                                                               
spoke about her  experience as a deaf person  in school, relating                                                               
that  her teacher  wore  a microphone  and  she wore  headphones,                                                               
someone would  point to the  person talking, and she  could learn                                                               
by reading  lips.  She  talked about words having  five different                                                               
meanings in  sign language  and about  parents learning  to sign.                                                               
She said video phones are helpful  to deaf people working at jobs                                                               
that  use the  telephone.   In response  to Co-Chair  Allard, she                                                               
confirmed that she supports HB 111.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:38:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI  LIEB-WILLIAMS, Chair,  Governor's Council  on Disabilities                                                               
and Special  Education, Department of Health  (DOH), testified in                                                               
support of  HB 111.  She  explained she is a  strong advocate for                                                               
the autism and disability community.   She informed the committee                                                               
that she is functionally deaf and  hard of hearing; it depends on                                                               
the moment whether  she has her hearing or not.   She shared that                                                               
she has  undergone hundreds of  ear surgeries to get  the hearing                                                               
she currently has, and recently,  she almost lost the hearing she                                                               
has.    She  said she  wished  she  knew  ASL  to help  her  with                                                               
communication,  and she  described some  of the  difficulties she                                                               
has endured  due to  communication barriers.   She stated  she is                                                               
working on  getting hearing  aids, and  the reason  HB 111  is so                                                               
important is  so parents can  choose for their child,  instead of                                                               
just relying on  the districts.  She urged the  committee to pass                                                               
HB 111.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:45:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY BOBICH,  representing self, testified  in support of  HB 111.                                                               
[Ms.  Bobich signed  her testimony,  which was  spoken by  an ASL                                                               
interpreter.]   She explained she is  both a teacher of  deaf and                                                               
hard of  hearing children and  a deaf  individual.  She  said she                                                               
was  born deaf  but her  parents did  not find  out until  later;                                                               
therefore,  she did  not learn  any  language until  later.   Her                                                               
family  made  the  decisions  on  how  she  could  best  get  her                                                               
education and  how she could  access information, she said.   She                                                               
stressed the importance of access  to language for deaf children,                                                               
as  there are  many opportunities  missed during  the first  five                                                               
years of life.  She opined  that parents should not have to fight                                                               
to  receive   the  information  and  resources   for  their  deaf                                                               
children, and  HB 111 is  "amazing and powerful" because  all the                                                               
resources  would   be  provided  in   one  place  and   would  be                                                               
accessible.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:50:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD,  after ascertaining  there was  no one  else who                                                               
wished to testify, closed public testimony on HB 111.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:50:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  BALDWIN  thanked the  committee  for  letting her  have  the                                                               
platform  today   and  encouraged   anyone  to  reach   out  with                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:51:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 111 was held over.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
          HB 106-TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:51:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 106, "An  Act authorizing lump sum payments for                                                               
certain  teachers as  retention and  recruitment incentives;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:51:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  opened  public  testimony on  HB  106.    After                                                               
ascertaining  no  one  wished  to   testify,  she  closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:52:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  acknowledged   missing  the  amendment                                                               
deadline but said  she had prepared a conceptual  amendment to HB
106.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:52:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:52 a.m. to 8:54 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:54:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1                                                               
to HB 106.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:54:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:54:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  wished  to  incorporate  the  language                                                               
about allowing Legislative Legal  Services to make any conforming                                                               
changes.  She added that Amendment  1 makes the lump sum payments                                                               
a permanent  feature of the system.   It removes the  three years                                                               
and makes  it wide open that  teachers who commit to  teaching in                                                               
Alaska would receive the payments without an end date, she said.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:55:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY  noted  that  Conceptual  Amendment  1  may                                                               
dramatically change the fiscal note.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:55:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT stated that there is not a fiscal note.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:56:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI TESHNER,  Acting Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early  Development  (DEED),   answered  questions  regarding  the                                                               
discussion on  a fiscal note.   She  said that $57.9  million per                                                               
year is the grant funding total for the teacher incentive pay.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:56:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  explained  that  the  purpose  of  the                                                               
amendment is  to take a good  idea and make it  a permanent idea.                                                               
It  is known  that the  state is  not competitive  in its  pay to                                                               
teachers, and it  is one way to  increase the pay and  to keep it                                                               
there.   Her concern  with the  bill, she  said, is  the existing                                                               
retirement system  not requiring  people to  stay more  than five                                                               
years, and having this incentive  for only three years is another                                                               
way to support teachers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:57:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY  recalled that the  purpose of the  bill was                                                               
to do a  pilot program for three years and  determine whether the                                                               
raises had an effect on retention.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER  responded that is correct.   The intent of  the bill                                                               
was to  create a study  to see if  it is something  that improves                                                               
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:58:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY offered  her  opinion that  the ability  to                                                               
raise  teacher pay  and keep  that going  is something  very much                                                               
needed.  She confirmed her support for the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:59:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE appreciated  the amendment;  however, HB  106                                                               
was  designed to  be  a pilot  program,  and it  may  not be  the                                                               
appropriate way  to raise pay for  teachers.  He stated  he would                                                               
not support the amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:00:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked Ms. Teshner  how it would be known                                                               
whether the three-year incentive worked or not.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHER responded  it would be learned through  the process of                                                               
the data collected and then reporting it out.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:01:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  offered his  opinion that it  is not  a good                                                               
idea to negotiate salaries through the "central authority."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:02:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  pointed  out  that when  unions  are  involved,                                                               
salaries are not negotiated for  the teachers, it is done through                                                               
the school districts.   She offered her belief  that is something                                                               
individual  districts   must  do,  and  although   she  supported                                                               
incentives, she stated the bill is good as-is.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:02:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT   stated   that   perhaps   Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 could  have been a little different,  but her concern                                                               
is that there  is no fiscal note  or study at the end.   She said                                                               
it  seemed like  a good  idea to  provide this  incentive so  the                                                               
districts could use it as a recruiting tool.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:02:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX maintained his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was  taken.     Representatives  McCormick,                                                               
Himschoot, and  Story voted in  favor of Conceptual  Amendment 1.                                                               
Representatives Prax, McKay, Allard,  and Ruffridge voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 1  failed to be adopted by a                                                               
vote of 3-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:03:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:03 a.m. to 9:04 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:04:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 2                                                               
to HB 106.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT spoke  to amendment  2 and  related her                                                               
experiences  as a  teacher.   She said  in addition  to teachers,                                                               
there are  shortages in support  staff; therefore, she  wanted to                                                               
open the idea up to include paraprofessionals and support staff.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:05:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY opined  that the  proposed amendment  was a                                                               
similar problem  to Conceptual  Amendment 1 in  that there  is no                                                               
fiscal note to estimate additional costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:05:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY offered  her belief that it  is an important                                                               
part  of  the  puzzle  for  students  doing  very  well  to  have                                                               
consistent help through support staff.   She opined it would be a                                                               
good  incentive and  investment  in Alaska's  resources for  this                                                               
amendment, even though the fiscal note would increase.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  commented   that  adding  paraprofessionals                                                               
increases the risk of getting nothing "if we push too far."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:07:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  offered her  insight that the  best way                                                               
to  increase  salaries  is  an   increase  in  the  base  student                                                               
allocation (BSA),  but since that is  uncertain, this [amendment]                                                               
is one  way to make  sure staff are  incentivized to stay  and it                                                               
would  increase recruitment  for districts.   She  brought up  an                                                               
example of  when the  Department of  Law (DOL)  did a  20 percent                                                               
increase,  and they  now  have  the lowest  vacancy  rate of  any                                                               
department; therefore, incentives work.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:08:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX maintained his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:08:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was  taken.     Representatives  McCormick,                                                               
Himschoot, and  Story voted in  favor of Conceptual  Amendment 2.                                                               
Representatives Allard, Prax, McKay,  and Ruffridge voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 2  failed to be adopted by a                                                               
vote of 3-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE moved  to report HB 106 out  of committee with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:09:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCORMICK objected.   He  stated he  supported HB
106, but offered his belief that  it is not a good replacement to                                                               
increase  the BSA.   He  added  that in  Bethel, he  was told  by                                                               
educators it  was something they  did not want; they  wanted good                                                               
benefits and an increase to the BSA.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK removed his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:09:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  objected.    She  mirrored  Representative                                                               
McCormick's  comments that  it should  not be  a replacement  for                                                               
funding  the BSA.   She  said  that working  conditions are  very                                                               
important  for   Alaska's  teachers   and  students   to  thrive;                                                               
therefore, we must keep up  with increasing costs, which also has                                                               
a  lot to  do  with local  control.   She  briefly mentioned  the                                                               
practices other states have attempted to adopt.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY removed her objection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  stated that  her objection lies  in the                                                               
fact  this  creates  a  difficult  position to  be  in,  and  she                                                               
acknowledges that teachers are underpaid  and any time there is a                                                               
chance to  increase their salaries,  it should  be done.   On the                                                               
other hand,  she said, a way  to do that  is to fund the  BSA and                                                               
provide increases on a regular basis  to fund the schools and the                                                               
salaries.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:12:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD offered  her support for teachers  and added that                                                               
there  is  no  guarantee  that the  BSA  would  increase  teacher                                                               
salaries;  that  is up  to  their  individual unions  and  school                                                               
boards.  She said she believed  this increase is an incentive and                                                               
recruitment tool,  as stated in  the bill, and reiterated  she is                                                               
in strong support of HB 106.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT maintained her objection.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives Story,  Allard,                                                               
Prax, McCormick,  McKay, Himschoot, and Ruffridge  voted in favor                                                               
of  HB 106.   Therefore,  HB 106  was reported  out of  the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee by a vote of 7-0.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:14:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:14 a.m. to 9:15 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 106 passed from committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:15:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:15 a.m. to 9:18 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
           HB 105-SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:18:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that the  final order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL  NO. 105, "An Act relating to  parental rights in a                                                               
child's  education;   relating  to  access  to   school  records;                                                               
relating  to sex  education,  human  reproduction education,  and                                                               
human sexuality  education; relating  to school  disciplinary and                                                               
safety programs; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:18:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY, in  response to  Co-Chair Allard,  said he                                                               
"removed" Amendment  1 [in committee  packet but never  moved for                                                               
adoption], and  "withdrew" Amendment  2 [in committee  packet but                                                               
never moved for adoption].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:19:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to adopt  Amendment 3 to  HB 105,                                                               
labeled 33-GH1072\A.2, Marx, 4/14/23, which read as follows:                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 2, following "records;":                                                                                    
          Insert "relating to school funding; relating to                                                                     
     charter schools; relating to state boarding schools;"                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, following line 21:                                                                                                 
          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "* Sec. 5. AS 14.03.260(a) is amended to read:                                                                      
          (a)  A local school board shall provide an                                                                            
     approved charter school with  an annual program budget.                                                                    
     The budget shall be not  less than the amount generated                                                                    
     by  the students  enrolled in  the charter  school less                                                                    
     administrative  costs  retained  by  the  local  school                                                                    
     district,  determined  by  applying the  indirect  cost                                                                    
     rate  approved by  the department  up to  four percent.                                                                    
     Costs  directly related  to charter  school facilities,                                                                    
     including rent, utilities, and  maintenance, may not be                                                                    
     included in  an annual program budget  for the purposes                                                                    
     of calculating  the four percent cap  on administrative                                                                    
     costs  under  this  subsection. A  local  school  board                                                                    
     shall provide a charter  school with a report itemizing                                                                    
     the administrative  costs retained by the  local school                                                                    
     board  under this  section.  The  "amount generated  by                                                                    
     students  enrolled  in the  charter  school"  is to  be                                                                    
     determined  in the  same manner  as it  would be  for a                                                                    
     student  enrolled  in  another public  school  in  that                                                                    
     school  district   and  includes  funds   generated  by                                                                    
     grants,   appropriations,  federal   impact  aid,   the                                                                    
     required  local  contribution, the  local  contribution                                                                    
     under    AS 14.17.410(c),     special    needs    under                                                                    
     AS 14.17.420(a)(1),  [AND] secondary  school vocational                                                                    
     and  technical  instruction  under  AS 14.17.420(a)(3),                                                                
     and    parental     involvement    initiatives    under                                                                
     AS 14.17.420(a)(4).  A  school  district  shall  direct                                                                
     state aid under AS 14.11  for the construction or major                                                                    
     maintenance  of  a  charter   school  facility  to  the                                                                    
     charter school  that generated  the state  aid, subject                                                                    
     to the  same terms and  conditions that apply  to state                                                                    
     aid   under   AS 14.11   for  construction   or   major                                                                    
     maintenance of a school facility  that is not a charter                                                                    
     school.                                                                                                                    
        * Sec. 6. AS 14.17.410(b) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (b)  Public school funding consists of state aid,                                                                     
     a  required local  contribution,  and eligible  federal                                                                    
     impact aid determined as follows:                                                                                          
               (1)  state aid equals basic need minus a                                                                         
     required local contribution and  90 percent of eligible                                                                    
     federal  impact aid  for that  fiscal year;  basic need                                                                    
     equals the  sum obtained  under (D) of  this paragraph,                                                                    
     multiplied by  the base student  allocation set  out in                                                                    
     AS 14.17.470;  district adjusted  ADM is  calculated as                                                                    
     follows:                                                                                                                   
               (A)  the  ADM of each school  in the district                                                                    
     is  calculated by  applying the  school size  factor to                                                                    
     the student count as set out in AS 14.17.450;                                                                              
               (B)   the number  obtained under (A)  of this                                                                    
     paragraph  is multiplied  by the  district cost  factor                                                                    
     described in AS 14.17.460;                                                                                                 
               (C)  the  ADMs of each school  in a district,                                                                    
     as  adjusted   according  to  (A)   and  (B)   of  this                                                                    
     paragraph,  are added;  the sum  is then  multiplied by                                                                    
     the    special     needs    factor    set     out    in                                                                    
     AS 14.17.420(a)(1),   [AND]    the   secondary   school                                                                
     vocational  and  technical instruction  funding  factor                                                                    
     set  out   in  AS 14.17.420(a)(3),  and   the  parental                                                                
     involvement  initiatives  funding  factor  set  out  in                                                                
     AS 14.17.420(a)(4);                                                                                                    
               (D)    the   number  obtained  for  intensive                                                                    
     services  under   AS 14.17.420(a)(2)  and   the  number                                                                    
     obtained  for correspondence  study under  AS 14.17.430                                                                    
     are  added to  the number  obtained under  (C) of  this                                                                    
     paragraph or under (H) and (I) of this paragraph;                                                                          
               (E)    notwithstanding  (A)  -  (C)  of  this                                                                    
     paragraph,  if a  school  district's  ADM adjusted  for                                                                    
     school size  under (A) of  this paragraph  decreases by                                                                    
     five percent or  more from one fiscal year  to the next                                                                    
     fiscal  year,  the school  district  may  use the  last                                                                    
     fiscal year before  the decrease as a  base fiscal year                                                                    
     to  offset the  decrease,  according  to the  following                                                                    
     method:                                                                                                                    
               (i)   for  the first  fiscal  year after  the                                                                    
     base  fiscal year  determined under  this subparagraph,                                                                    
     the  school district's  ADM  adjusted  for school  size                                                                    
     determined under  (A) of  this paragraph  is calculated                                                                    
     as the  district's ADM adjusted  for school  size, plus                                                                    
     75  percent of  the  difference in  the district's  ADM                                                                    
     adjusted for  school size between the  base fiscal year                                                                    
     and the first fiscal year after the base fiscal year;                                                                      
               (ii)   for the second  fiscal year  after the                                                                    
     base  fiscal year  determined under  this subparagraph,                                                                    
     the  school district's  ADM  adjusted  for school  size                                                                    
     determined under  (A) of  this paragraph  is calculated                                                                    
     as the  district's ADM adjusted  for school  size, plus                                                                    
     50  percent of  the  difference in  the district's  ADM                                                                    
     adjusted for  school size between the  base fiscal year                                                                    
     and the second fiscal year after the base fiscal year;                                                                     
               (iii)  for the third fiscal year after the                                                                       
     base  fiscal year  determined under  this subparagraph,                                                                    
     the  school district's  ADM  adjusted  for school  size                                                                    
     determined under  (A) of  this paragraph  is calculated                                                                    
     as the  district's ADM adjusted  for school  size, plus                                                                    
     25  percent of  the  difference in  the district's  ADM                                                                    
     adjusted for  school size between the  base fiscal year                                                                    
     and the third fiscal year after the base fiscal year;                                                                      
               (F)  the method established in (E) of this                                                                       
     paragraph  is available  to a  school district  for the                                                                    
     three  fiscal  years  following the  base  fiscal  year                                                                    
     determined  under (E)  of this  paragraph  only if  the                                                                    
     district's  ADM  adjusted  for school  size  determined                                                                    
     under (A)  of this  paragraph for  each fiscal  year is                                                                    
     less than  the district's ADM adjusted  for school size                                                                    
     in the base fiscal year;                                                                                                   
               (G)  the method established in (E) of this                                                                       
     paragraph  does   not  apply  to  a   decrease  in  the                                                                    
     district's ADM adjusted for  school size resulting from                                                                    
     a  loss of  enrollment that  occurs  as a  result of  a                                                                    
     boundary change under AS 29;                                                                                               
               (H)  notwithstanding (A) - (C) of this                                                                           
     paragraph,   if  one   or   more   schools  close   and                                                                    
     consolidate with one or more  other schools in the same                                                                    
     community  and  district  and,   as  a  result  of  the                                                                    
     consolidation, basic  need generated by  the district's                                                                    
     ADM of  the consolidated schools as  adjusted under (A)                                                                    
     -  (C) of  this paragraph  decreases, the  district may                                                                    
     use the  last fiscal  year before the  consolidation as                                                                    
     the base  fiscal year to  offset that decrease  for the                                                                    
     first   four  fiscal   years  following   consolidation                                                                    
     according to the following method:                                                                                         
               (i)  for the first two fiscal years after                                                                        
     the  base  fiscal  year,  the  district's  ADM  of  the                                                                    
     consolidated  schools as  adjusted under  (A) -  (C) of                                                                    
     this  paragraph is  calculated by  dividing the  sum of                                                                    
     the  district's  ADM  of the  consolidated  schools  as                                                                    
     adjusted  under (A)  - (C)  of this  paragraph for  the                                                                    
     base fiscal  year by the  sum of the district's  ADM of                                                                    
     the  consolidated  schools  for the  base  fiscal  year                                                                    
     without  adjustment,   and  subtracting   the  quotient                                                                    
     obtained  by   dividing  the  district's  ADM   of  the                                                                    
     consolidated  schools for  the current  fiscal year  as                                                                    
     adjusted under (A)  - (C) of this paragraph  by the sum                                                                    
     of the  district's ADM of the  consolidated schools for                                                                    
     the   current    fiscal   year    without   adjustment,                                                                    
     multiplying that  number by the  sum of  the district's                                                                    
     ADM of the consolidated  schools for the current fiscal                                                                    
     year without adjustment, and adding  that number to the                                                                    
     sum of  the district's ADM of  the consolidated schools                                                                    
     for the  current fiscal  year as  adjusted under  (A) -                                                                    
     (C) of this paragraph;                                                                                                     
               (ii)  for the third fiscal year after the                                                                        
     base   fiscal  year,   the   district's   ADM  of   the                                                                    
     consolidated  schools as  adjusted under  (A) -  (C) of                                                                    
     this  paragraph is  calculated by  dividing the  sum of                                                                    
     the  district's  ADM  of the  consolidated  schools  as                                                                    
     adjusted  under (A)  - (C)  of this  paragraph for  the                                                                    
     base fiscal  year by the  sum of the district's  ADM of                                                                    
     the  consolidated  schools  for the  base  fiscal  year                                                                    
     without  adjustment,   and  subtracting   the  quotient                                                                    
     obtained by dividing  the sum of the  district's ADM of                                                                    
     the consolidated  schools for  the current  fiscal year                                                                    
     as adjusted  under (A) -  (C) of this paragraph  by the                                                                    
     sum of  the district's ADM of  the consolidated schools                                                                    
     for the  current fiscal  year, multiplying  that number                                                                    
     by the  sum of the  district's ADM of  the consolidated                                                                    
     schools   for   the   current   fiscal   year   without                                                                    
     adjustment, multiplying that number  by 66 percent, and                                                                    
     adding that number to the  sum of the district's ADM of                                                                    
     the consolidated  schools for  the current  fiscal year                                                                    
     as adjusted under (A) - (C) of this paragraph;                                                                             
               (iii)  for the fourth fiscal year after the                                                                      
     base   fiscal  year,   the   district's   ADM  of   the                                                                    
     consolidated  schools as  adjusted under  (A) -  (C) of                                                                    
     this  paragraph is  calculated by  dividing the  sum of                                                                    
     the  district's  ADM  of the  consolidated  schools  as                                                                    
     adjusted  under (A)  - (C)  of this  paragraph for  the                                                                    
     base fiscal  year by the  sum of the district's  ADM of                                                                    
     the  consolidated  schools  for the  base  fiscal  year                                                                    
     without  adjustment,   and  subtracting   the  quotient                                                                    
     obtained by dividing  the sum of the  district's ADM of                                                                    
     the consolidated  schools for  the current  fiscal year                                                                    
     as adjusted  under (A) -  (C) of this paragraph  by the                                                                    
     sum of  the district's ADM of  the consolidated schools                                                                    
     for the  current fiscal  year, multiplying  that number                                                                    
     by the  sum of the  district's ADM of  the consolidated                                                                    
     schools   for   the   current   fiscal   year   without                                                                    
     adjustment, multiplying that number  by 33 percent, and                                                                    
     adding that number to the  sum of the district's ADM of                                                                    
     the consolidated  schools for  the current  fiscal year                                                                    
     as adjusted under (A) - (C) of this paragraph;                                                                             
               (iv)  to calculate  the district's basic need                                                                    
     for each  fiscal year, the number  obtained through the                                                                    
     calculation   in   (i),   (ii),  or   (iii)   of   this                                                                    
     subparagraph is added to the  number obtained under (C)                                                                    
     of this paragraph for the remainder of the district;                                                                       
               (I)    if  the basic  need  calculated  under                                                                    
     (H)(i) - (iii)  of this paragraph for one  of the first                                                                    
     four fiscal years after consolidation  is less than the                                                                    
     basic  need   calculated  under  (A)  -   (C)  of  this                                                                    
     paragraph for that fiscal year,  the basic need may not                                                                    
     be  adjusted  under  (H) of  this  paragraph  for  that                                                                    
     fiscal year;                                                                                                               
               (J)   a  district may  not offset  a decrease                                                                    
     under (H) of this paragraph if                                                                                             
               (i)   a  new facility  is constructed  in the                                                                    
     district for the consolidation; or                                                                                         
               (ii)   the district  offset a  decrease under                                                                    
     (E) of this paragraph in the same fiscal year;                                                                             
               (K)    a  district that  offsets  a  decrease                                                                    
     under (H)  of this  paragraph may  not reopen  a school                                                                    
     that  was  closed  for consolidation  in  the  district                                                                    
     until                                                                                                                      
               (i)   seven or more  years have  passed since                                                                    
     the school closure; and                                                                                                    
               (ii)      the  district   provides   evidence                                                                    
     satisfactory  to   the  department  that   the  schools                                                                    
     affected by the consolidation are over capacity;                                                                           
               (L)     a   district  may   not  reopen   and                                                                    
     reconsolidate  a school  that was  consolidated in  the                                                                    
     district more than once every  seven years for purposes                                                                    
     of the calculations made under (H) of this paragraph;                                                                      
               (M)   a district offsetting a  decrease under                                                                    
     (H)  of this  paragraph  shall  provide the  department                                                                    
     with  the   list  of   schools  participating   in  the                                                                    
     consolidation and the corresponding ADM;                                                                                   
               (2)   the  required local  contribution of  a                                                                    
     city or borough school district  is the equivalent of a                                                                    
     2.65 mill  tax levy on the  full and true value  of the                                                                    
     taxable real  and personal property in  the district as                                                                    
     of January 1  of the second  preceding fiscal  year, as                                                                    
     determined  by the  Department of  Commerce, Community,                                                                    
     and   Economic  Development   under  AS 14.17.510   and                                                                    
     AS 29.45.110, not to exceed 45  percent of a district's                                                                    
     basic need for the  preceding fiscal year as determined                                                                    
     under (1) of this subsection.                                                                                              
        * Sec. 7. AS 14.17.420(a) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (a)  As a component of public school funding, a                                                                       
     district   is  eligible   for   special  needs,   [AND]                                                                
     secondary school vocational  and technical instruction,                                                                
     and  parental involvement  initiatives funding  and may                                                                
     be eligible for intensive services funding as follows:                                                                     
               (1)  special needs funding is available to a                                                                     
     district to  assist the  district in  providing special                                                                    
     education,  gifted and  talented education,  vocational                                                                    
     education,  and  bilingual  education services  to  its                                                                    
     students; a special needs funding  factor of 1.20 shall                                                                    
     be applied as set out in AS 14.17.410(b)(1);                                                                               
               (2)  in addition to the special needs                                                                            
     funding for which  a district is eligible  under (1) of                                                                    
     this subsection,  a district is eligible  for intensive                                                                    
     services  funding for  each  special education  student                                                                    
     who  needs  and  receives  intensive  services  and  is                                                                    
     enrolled on the last day  of the count period; for each                                                                    
     such student,  intensive services  funding is  equal to                                                                    
     the intensive student count multiplied by 13;                                                                              
               (3)  in addition to the special needs and                                                                        
     intensive services funding available  under (1) and (2)                                                                    
     of  this subsection,  secondary  school vocational  and                                                                    
     technical  instruction funding  is available  to assist                                                                    
     districts   in  providing   vocational  and   technical                                                                    
     instruction  to   students  who   are  enrolled   in  a                                                                    
     secondary  school; a  secondary  school vocational  and                                                                    
     technical instruction funding factor  of 1.015 shall be                                                                    
     applied  as  set  out in  AS 14.17.410(b)(1);  in  this                                                                    
     paragraph,   "vocational  and   technical  instruction"                                                                    
     excludes costs associated with                                                                                             
               (A)  administrative expenses; and                                                                                
               (B)  instruction in general literacy,                                                                            
     mathematics, and job readiness skills;                                                                                 
               (4) in addition to the special needs,                                                                        
     intensive  services,  and secondary  school  vocational                                                                
     and technical  instruction funding available  under (1)                                                                
     -   (3)  of   this  subsection,   parental  involvement                                                                
     initiatives  funding is  available to  assist districts                                                                
     in  the district's  implementation of  the requirements                                                                
     of    AS 14.03.016(a)(3),     (a)(7),    and    (a)(8),                                                                
     AS 14.03.115,    AS 14.30.361(e)     and    (f),    and                                                                
     AS 14.33.120(a)(10), including the  costs of additional                                                                
     administrative  and educational  support personnel  and                                                                
     modification of  locker rooms and  restroom facilities;                                                                
     a  parental involvement  initiatives funding  factor of                                                                
     1.005    shall   be    applied    as    set   out    in                                                                
     AS 14.17.410(b)(1).                                                                                                    
        * Sec. 8. AS 14.17.440(a) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (a)  Except as provided in AS 14.17.400(b),                                                                           
     funding  for state  boarding schools  established under                                                                    
     AS 14.16.010  includes an  allocation  from the  public                                                                    
     education fund in an amount calculated by                                                                                  
               (1)  determining the ADM of state boarding                                                                       
     schools  by  applying the  school  size  factor to  the                                                                    
     student count as described in AS 14.17.450;                                                                                
               (2)  multiplying the number obtained under                                                                       
     (1) of this  subsection by the special  needs factor in                                                                    
     AS 14.17.420(a)(1),   [AND]    the   secondary   school                                                                
     vocational  and  technical instruction  funding  factor                                                                    
     set  out   in  AS 14.17.420(a)(3),  and   the  parental                                                                
     involvement  initiatives  funding  factor  set  out  in                                                                
     AS 14.17.420(a)(4) and multiplying  that product by the                                                                
     base student allocation; and                                                                                               
               (3)  multiplying the product determined                                                                          
     under  (2)  of this  subsection  by  the district  cost                                                                    
     factor that  is applicable to calculation  of the state                                                                    
     aid   for   the    adjacent   school   district   under                                                                    
     AS 14.17.460."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
[No audible objection was captured on the recording.]                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:19:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT spoke  to Amendment  3.   She said  the                                                               
amendment  provides  funding  support  for  school  districts  to                                                               
implement  the requirements  of HB  105,  as well  as a  parental                                                               
involvement initiatives  funding factor.   She said that  as much                                                               
communication  with families  this  bill will  require, it  comes                                                               
with a  cost, such as  extra staffing, and teachers  following up                                                               
on required paperwork.  She gave  brief examples of how the tasks                                                               
of  meeting requirements  can slightly  change  depending on  the                                                               
size of  the district.  She  added there would also  be increased                                                               
records requests, and if students  are opting out, those students                                                               
still  need to  be somewhere  they are  supervised.   The funding                                                               
factor,  she said,  would  cover the  one-time  capital cost  for                                                               
modifications to  buildings which  the bill  asks schools  to do.                                                               
Without this amendment and the  bill passed, [the state] would be                                                               
putting another unfunded mandate on schools.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:23:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   MCCORMICK   suggested  adopting   the   proposed                                                               
committee substitute prior to discussing this amendment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  explained  that  Amendment 3  pertains  to  the                                                               
original bill version of HB 105.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:23:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  sought   more  information  regarding  the                                                               
initiatives for  informing parents.  She  acknowledged that there                                                               
would be  an unfunded mandate  with the  bill, and all  the other                                                               
steps  that would  need  to be  taken  add to  a  huge amount  of                                                               
communication.  She  said it would be helpful to  have a parental                                                               
liaison at  schools to  help encourage  parent involvement.   She                                                               
stated she was worried about  not resourcing help for teachers as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:25:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  responded  that   right  now,  in  her                                                               
experience, there  is quite a  bit of communication  that happens                                                               
between classroom teachers and parents.   Finding time outside of                                                               
the normal  school day, she said,  to reach out to  parents takes                                                               
time and money and schools should have the resources they need.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:26:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY requested a roll call vote on Amendment 3.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:27:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  Himschoot, Story,                                                               
Prax, and  McCormick voted  in favor  of Amendment  3 to  HB 105.                                                               
Representatives Allard,  McKay, and  Ruffridge voted  against it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 3 was adopted by a vote of 4-3.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:28:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:28 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:28:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD withdrew  Amendment 4  [in committee  packet but                                                               
never moved for adoption].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:28:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE   moved  to  adopt  the   proposed  Committee                                                               
Substitute (CS)  for HB 105, Version  B, also referred to  as 33-                                                               
GH1072\B  Marx  4/15/23  as  the   work  draft.  There  being  no                                                               
objection, Version B was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:29:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:29 a.m. to 9:42 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:42:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD [returned  to  discussion of  the original  bill                                                               
version of HB 105].                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE,  in response to Co-Chair  Allard, moved                                                               
to rescind action in adopting Amendment [3] to HB 105.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:43:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  restated  his   motion  to  adopt  the                                                               
proposed committee substitute (CS) for HB 105.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:43:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD  noted that  there had been  no objection  to the                                                               
motion to  rescind the committee's  action in  adopting Amendment                                                               
[3].                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD announced  there being  no objection,  Version B                                                               
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:44:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee  took two  consecutive at-eases  from 9:44  a.m. to                                                               
9:45 a.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:45:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  spoke on the changes  made in committee                                                               
substitute  for HB  105,  Version  B.   He  said  the bill  would                                                               
require  that parents  receive notification  for all  activities,                                                               
classes, or  programs that a  child is  involved in at  least two                                                               
weeks  in advance.    He added  that it  would  allow parents  to                                                               
choose what their  child participates in.  The  parent would also                                                               
provide the school  with names, nicknames, and  pronouns that the                                                               
school shall use for identification and records.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:46:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1                                                               
to HB 105, Version B.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:47:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  explained  that  the  costs  had  been                                                               
researched with her  staff, and there is no fiscal  note now, but                                                               
it  would  be  approximately  $6  million.   She  added  to  give                                                               
Legislative  Legal  Services  permission to  make  any  necessary                                                               
conforming changes  to Amendment 1 [which  was originally drafted                                                               
for the original bill version].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:48:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE maintained his objection.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:48:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll  call  vote  was taken.    Representatives  Story,  Prax,                                                               
McCormick, and  Himschoot voted in  favor of the motion  to adopt                                                               
Conceptual Amendment  1 to  HB 105,  Version B.   Representatives                                                               
Ruffridge,  McKay,  and  Allard  voted against  it.    Therefore,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment  1 to HB  105, Version  B, was adopted  by a                                                               
vote of 4-3.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:49:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:49 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:50:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK questioned what  sort of protections may                                                               
remain in  place for students who  might be from an  abusive home                                                               
and a student  could potentially end up in  a dangerous situation                                                               
when they are forced to share certain information.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE explained  that  there are  protections                                                               
already in place  for teachers, and teachers  are still mandatory                                                               
reporters if such a situation would arise.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCORMICK   asked  Representative   Ruffridge  to                                                               
clarify a "return."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE explained  that  through testimony  and                                                               
conversations regarding HB  105, teachers were found to  be not a                                                               
neutral  third party  and found  themselves  uncomfortable.   The                                                               
teachers,  he said,  may have  information they  are not  certain                                                               
what to do with and the Version B clarifies that.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:53:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  moved to  report CSHB 105,  Version 33-                                                               
GH1072\B,  Marx,  4/15/23,  as  amended, out  of  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:53:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT objected  and spoke  to her  objection.                                                               
She paraphrased  a previous testifier  who stated that  there may                                                               
be some poor parenting, but so  does her profession as a teacher.                                                               
She added  that she thought the  bill was "using a  butcher knife                                                               
where a scalpel would do."   The bill, she said, takes focus away                                                               
from things that should be done,  such as supporting schools in a                                                               
predictable and stable way, as  well as recruiting and retaining.                                                               
She stated  that passage of the  bill would be passing  a mandate                                                               
that   feels  threatening   to  some   of  the   most  vulnerable                                                               
population.   She reiterated her  opposition to the bill  and the                                                               
committee substitute.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:55:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY  called the previous question  on Version B,                                                               
as amended.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:55:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:55 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:55:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK objected to the call to question.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:56:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease at 9:56 a.m.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:56:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Ruffridge, Prax,                                                               
McKay,  and  Allard voted  in  favor  of  the call  to  question.                                                               
Representatives  Himschoot, Story,  and  McCormick voted  against                                                               
it.  Therefore, the call to question was so ordered.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:57:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives McKay,  Allard,                                                               
Prax, and  Ruffridge voted in  favor of HB 105.   Representatives                                                               
McCormick, Himschoot, and Story voted  against it.  Therefore, HB
105 passed  out of  the House Education  Standing Committee  by a                                                               
vote of 4-3.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:58:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:58 a.m. to 9:59 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:59:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ALLARD announced  that  CSHB  105(EDC) had  moved                                                               
from  committee   with  permission  for  Legislative   Legal  and                                                               
Research Services to make conforming changes.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:59:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:59 a.m. to 10:04 a.m.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:04:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY  stated, "I  withdrew my previous  motion to                                                               
call the question on HB 105, committee substitute, as amended."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ALLARD stated,  "I'm going to go  back and rescind                                                               
action in  regards to what had  happened when you had  called the                                                               
question, based on  the fact that you have to  have two-thirds of                                                               
the vote.  So, I apologize, I moved a little too quickly."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:04:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:04 a.m. to 10:06 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:06:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  restated the  motion to move  CSHB 105,                                                               
Version 33-GH1072\B,  Marx, 4/15/23, as amended,  with individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying zero fiscal note.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:06:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY  objected and spoke  to her objection.   She                                                               
offered her  belief regarding the importance  of parental rights,                                                               
and that  they are key.   She added that in  current law, parents                                                               
are to be  notified of any sensitive topic two  weeks prior to it                                                               
being given  and have the  right to opt  out.  She  expressed her                                                               
concern that the bill  switches an opt out to an  opt in, and she                                                               
said  she  believed  kids  would   miss  out  on  very  important                                                               
information.     Most  parents  want   their  children   to  have                                                               
information on  the sensitive  age-appropriate topics,  she said.                                                               
She opined  that it  puts up a  barrier for  returning permission                                                               
slips and  stressed that  she would  not want  students to  be at                                                               
risk.   She stated that  youth need  an affirming adult  in their                                                               
lives to stop  self-harm, and she observed that the  bill may put                                                               
teachers in  a very awkward  place as well  as the student.   She                                                               
said [legislators] must think about  local control and violations                                                               
of a  student's rights to privacy.   The regulations in  the bill                                                               
garner much more serious thought, she said.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:11:37 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCORMICK noted  that  suicide is  a leading  but                                                               
preventable public  health crises  in Alaska  and is  the leading                                                               
cause of death in youths ages  10 through 24.  Suicide prevention                                                               
activists, he  said, have identified the  proposed legislation as                                                               
a problem and  have testified before the committee  that it could                                                               
lead to higher rates in suicide.   He offered his belief that not                                                               
enough has  been changed in  the bill,  and that it  strips young                                                               
people of  the ability  to make  choices for  themselves, denying                                                               
them the  ability to live with  dignity.  He referred  to HB 111,                                                               
stating that the legislature was  doing something to help people.                                                               
He opined HB 105  would make life harder for people.   He gave an                                                               
example of growing up in rural  Alaska where life is hard, and he                                                               
said he  ran to make life  easier for rural kids.   He reiterated                                                               
his opposition to HB 105.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:13:32 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX   offered  his  opinion  that   this  is  an                                                               
imperfect world, and that parents  have a moral responsibility to                                                               
raise  their  children,  but  someone  turned  it  into  a  legal                                                               
obligation.     He   believed  that   parents   have  the   moral                                                               
responsibility to  raise children, not the  legislature, and even                                                               
if parents  make mistakes,  they must have  that right,  he said.                                                               
He stressed  that the bill  poses challenges, and the  state must                                                               
think critically about this.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:15:47 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  RUFFRIDGE  thanked  committee members  for  their                                                               
comments.   He said the legislature  was in an important  spot in                                                               
returning to  a conversation regarding  what is  happening inside                                                               
of Alaska's  schools and its children.   He said he  believed the                                                               
bill  actually  strengthens  the  ability for  students  to  have                                                               
private access to  restrooms and potentially a  greater aspect to                                                               
safety.  He  stated that while it  may not be a  perfect bill, it                                                               
started the  conversations about  what the  role of  teachers and                                                               
parents are,  and how to better  engage them.  He  said he valued                                                               
parent's rights tremendously  and that he looked  forward to more                                                               
legislative sessions on the subject.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:18:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY drew  attention to  page 2,  line 9  of the                                                               
bill in reference to a  religious holiday and whether Legislative                                                               
Legal Services needs to make any changes.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RUFFRIDGE  explained that the language  is already                                                               
in state statute and not part of the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:19:48 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK maintained his objection.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:19:50 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representatives  McKay, Ruffridge,                                                               
Prax, and  Allard voted  in favor  of the  motion to  report CSHB
105,  Version  33-GH1072\B, Marx,  4/15/23,  as  amended, out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
zero fiscal note.   Therefore, CSHB 105(EDC) was  reported out of                                                               
the House Education Standing Committee by a vote of 4-3.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:20:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD relayed  that when  there are  other legislators                                                               
present,  they  must   be  respectful  to  the   chairs  and  not                                                               
interrupt.  She added that aides are present for assistance.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:21:11 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 10:21 a.m. to 10:23 a.m.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:23:41 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD briefly discussed future business.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:24:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Education Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 10:24 a.m.                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB105 Amendment 2.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 4.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 3.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB 105 CS VerB.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 1.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105